Clean cable management. It pretty much stays close to the speed you set it to even when under load. There’s a ton of “right hand rule” going on when you spin one up…. I had my 611 sitting at a 1 and used a feedrate of 30 or 35 IPM, if I remember correctly. STEP1: remove the DW611 from the SO3 mount. I know. I didn’t use “the book” and ran them all together. The advantage of Super ID is being able to drop to 5000 rpms vs.16000 which allows more cutter options. X-Carve. This may create cooling issues, since the low-end machines are cooled by a fan on the motor shaft. To do so, you remove the closed loop control. DeWALT D26204K/DWP611 SuperPID conversion This brief is about converting the DeWALT router to be controlled by the SuperPID closed loop speed controller. The DWP611PK 1-1/4 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router Combo Kit with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. Thanks again! If the power requirements are 6 volts DC, then you would connect the positive side of your supply to the RED wire and the ground/negative side to the BLACK wire. Feel free to ask if you have any other questions. I need to machine plastic, and the 16,000rpm minimum on the 611 is way, way too fast for what I’m doing. http://community.carbide3d.com/t/dewalt-dw611-info-and-looking-for-the-speed-control-pot-specs/1894 Voltage and No-Load Speed. This will certainly void your router warranty and if you make a mistake it could ruin your router control card. But yea i just hooked it to a 9v to check it and it does work. Lol, it is technically going to be yours before long when you burn the brushes out of it. Jong! I bought the EStop and switches on Amazon. The advantage of this mod is that it’s essentially free vs $150+ for SuperPID. Proceed at your own risk. Soldering iron, solder, flux, wire strippers, etc… and some level of soldering skills. EDIT: Heeey, that Amazon speed controller even goes as far as to claim “full power and torque at all speeds.” Decent reviews, too. I’m not great and it worked for me. There should not be one wire per LED, but a single power and ground for all LEDs. The lights were brighter up to 9VDC but I don’t know how high you can go before it shortens their life. FYI. It’s been awhile since I read this write up, could it also be used to slow the Dewalt down below the 16,000 minimum? I thought it would be better to post it as a rough overview than to not post anything. This picture shows the underside of the control card and more wiring. For some, that is a lot of bear and SuperPID is a very viable option to gain flexibility… especially the lower RPM range. Such variable speeds make it ideal for versatility. Variable speed control feature provides 16,000 - 27,000-RPM which allows you to optimize bit speed to suit the application. The Dewalt DW611 router that is an option offered by C3D has built in closed loop speed control so its a nice router for the price. They might go from 1 to 6 and even have a maximum range between 16,000 RPM to 27000 RPM. The lowest speed of 16,000RPM might be too high for some people. Remote power control. I’m wondering how significant a loss it would be for the router to lose it’s internal soft-start controller in exchange for the use of one of these speed controllers. Users have measured the actual speeds reached at different number settings: http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3918. I put this post together in about two hours so its not refined but it will give you the idea. How did you wire that up? Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications. I guess before I start tearing my router to pieces I aught to do a bit more experimentation with feedrates. How did you wire that up? I’m doing styrene sheet on 1 and so far so good. Since the DW660 is single-speed, some users have used a router speed control unit, such as the MLCS 9400 Standard Duty Router Speed Control to slow it down. It also includes LED lights in the bottom that turn on when the router is on. I know. dewalt611.png 815×516 220 KB. What is your feed rate? Make sure you check with them before buying one. I ran the LED wires across a 6VDC power supply and across the control panel switch. Durable 1.25 HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications. Thanks JDM. Soft-starting motor features full-time … I jady_d-.hello@hotmail.com trying finding this but never could, again thank you! Looks like a lot of fun. The DWP611 1-1/4 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. Sorry to bring up such a old thread, But the led’s from the router are only two wires. If I decide to spend money on an upgrade it will be for a real spindle with a VFD. I think it costs around $150. You might want to watch a YouTube video about how to desolder components. There is a PID feedback controller (mods, feel free to insert link here if you want) called Super PID. I bought it mostly for the low speed options (5,000-30,000RPM range). It allows you to go down to 5,000 rpm without losing torque as well as use g-code to control the router. Brand: Dewalt. It pretty much stays close to the speed you set it to even when under load. There’s a metal tab that holds the wires in place. Make sure you note which one is positive and which is negative. If you see any issues feel free to post corrections. This forum is the best!! This is used for closed loop feedback so the system can add power under load to maintain the rpm setting. Being able to control the speed of a router will make it versatile. I haven’t seen anyone attempt to use an ordinary 120V motor speed with their Dewalt 611. Speed control . If you want to go by the book you would run the low voltage LED and pot wires out of a separate hole and not place the 120VAC power wires in the cable track. The DeWalt DWP611 is a 110v/220v handheld router that your simply remove from its base and insert it into the X-Carve as a spindle. I posted a picture labeled "very rough schematic " early in the thread that shows it. I’ve jogged my machine with the router running and didn’t see any EMI issues. Do you always keep your Dewalt 611 speed at 1? Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Router Speed Controller for Dewalt DWP 611, modifying the Dewalt for external speed control. No Load Speed range 16,000-27,000rpm. 2. You can run the router power and control wires through the SO3 cable tracks instead of having them floating around above the machine. Oh wow, maybe I have just been babying my system at 30 ipm. Independent remote light control. I just don’t really want to hack apart the D 611 I am using as it is “technically” not mine. I had to do that. The DWP611PK 1-1/4 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router Combo Kit with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. You can have the light on when the router is off which makes zeroing and bit changes easier. The LEDs may burn out quickly at 9v. I’ve also seen the Rockler router speed controller mentioned in this forum before. Specs: Amps 7.0Amps HP 1.25HP No Load Speed 16,000 - 27,000rpm Collet Diameter 1/4" Plunge Stroke 1.5" Depth Stop Base Dimension 4" Spindle Lock 12 position Tool Weight 4.1lbs Features: • Durable 1.25HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications This one starts from 16,000 to 27,000RPM. Personally, I'd probably get a repair estimate, and if it's anywhere close to the cost of a new 611, then I'd replace it. In this case, common convention is that the RED wire is Power (VCC) and the BLACK wire is ground. I can’t say how well the Dewalt or any other router holds it RPM well under load. Closed loop should do a good job. You don’t want a lot of instantaneous torque tweaking your carriage. No more reaching to turn the router on. It can also cause EMI issues. Just like any other model, having variable speed control in a router tool helps a lot. The bit has to be sharp or it definitely gums up. I’ll try doubling that tonight and see what happens. The DEWALT DWP611 compact router features a 1-1/4 peak HP motor.Compared to its competitor’s models, this motor delivers significantly more power to help you accomplish your wood tasks as productively as possible.You will be able to better manage the tool by … So, how would you feel about connecting your 611 to one of these “cheap” speed controllers in a similar fashion? This router speed controller on Amazon claims “0 to Full Adjustment,” and if the harbor freight does the same it’d be an option, albeit sloppy. STEP3: Remove the OEM speed control potentiometer. Feel free to post comments and your own builds and variations. Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications. This is a great feature. I could probably have jacked up the feed rate but I had time and didn't want to risk quality for speed. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, SO3: DeWalt DW611 info. I also think that the soft start is easier on the X & Z axis assemblies. A red and a black, one from each led. LED light and clear plastic fixed base provide superior bit visibility. A few photos would be nice as well. Just leave it turned on. The corded version’s is made of aluminum. Rick, it doesn’t work with them because a “soft start” router has an internal speed/torque controller. Last Refresh: Tue Dec 22 2020 15:27:32 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Connect your pot wires to a 5,000 ohm linear resistor. Probably true. I can’t remember now if 6VDC is what I measured going to the LEDs from the router or if I just hooked them up to a power supply and turned up the voltage until they got as bright as I needed. Features precise depth adjustments and fast, easy motor pack removal for bit and base changes. You may ask why I didn’t just use a router speed controller. The router has an integrated hall sensor that reads a magnet on the end of the motor shaft. 360icon December 1, 2016, 5:13pm #1. If had to do it all over again I probably wouldn’t change a thing, happy customer. The equipment is of one and a quarter peak horsepower router that draws … I believe that this is the 240V equivalent of … Variable Speed . Because I know you nerds like watching things being made, as I do, here's a time lapse of an engrave on acrylic that I just did with a diamond drag bit. I have a Super PID on my dewalt and it works flawlessly. This means that it can maintain the best motor speed through the whole time you are making the cuts. It allows you to control your router between 16.000-27,000 rpm. I hope someone gets to enjoy this mod with me. Product Specifications Where did you find it? Having control of the spindle lights and being able to run the router power cord through the cable tracks are bonuses. Basically the LED is completely electrically disconnected from the router. RickPeterson November 10, 2015, 7:13pm #11. Allows quick and easy bit and base changes. If you choose to cut the power cord cut it close tot he control board so you can run the new wires through the strain relief. The DWP611 has you covered in this regard given its variable speed output of between 16,000-27,000 RPM, and this is selectable via six different settings using the … My impression is that the Super PID will maintain torque at the lower RPMs where a variac and other passive systems will not. The engrave time was actually 90 minutes. This controller is not compatible with the 611 without taking it apart and modifying some wiring. If you think of steps that are missing just let me know and I’ll fill them in as best I can. Cut the connector off of the red and black LED wires and solder small gage stranded wire onto them. The DEWALT DWP611 ROUTER has a variable speed control along with a starting motor facility that is capable of maintaining motor speed through the cut with full-time electronic feedback. Its not good practice to run 120VAC in the same track as low voltage wiring because a short could cause what you think is a low voltage line to become high voltage. The speed control commands speeds from 16k rpm to 27k rpm. Remote RPM setting. Turned all the way to Low, it might actually shut off the router, enabling you to slowly manually ramp the speed up to avoid that violent start scenario. I’m not sure but it may blow out the LED’s if you connect them with reverse polarity. he led’s from the router are only two wires. The DWP611 has built-in soft start and speed control. I have the SO3, the dewalt 611 and want to automize the way I control my router. Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut. Rick, it doesn’t work with them because a “soft start” router has an internal speed/torque controller. It is pricey and a bit of a pain to install, but it works very well. STEP4: Solder small gage stranded wires into the two holes shown. There are instructions scattered around the internet for modifying the Dewalt for external speed control. The DWP611PK 1-1/4 HP max torque variable speed compact router Combo kit with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. Its not hard but knowing a few little tricks will make it less frustrating with less chance of overheating other components on the control board. Depending on the router, it is possible to go as low as 5K RPM. *Make sure the router is unplugged before you start! I am new and want to make sure I don’t go breaking all my bits as I am learning right off the bat. When I engrave with a v-bit, it is .005 doc and 60 ipm. The speed control on the Dewalt is very good at maintaining RPM under load so unless you need lower RPMs you don’t need a seperate controller. Connect the LED wires to a power switch fed by a 6VDC power supply. This mod is essentially free other than the cost of a 5k linear pot ( a few $ and the wire needed). Excellent project. and Looking for the speed control pot specs, SO3: XXL Mega-Enclosure and Dust Collection, SO3 XXL Enclosure Upgrades - computer shelf, control panel labels, gas springs, SO3: How to mod the Dewalt DW611 for remote speed, light and power control, http://www.amazon.com/OHM-Linear-Taper-Rotary-Potentiometer/dp/B00X73YUE4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00. Features Durable 1.25HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut Dual LED's and clear sub-base ensure maximum And it’s over $100 less than a SuperPID. dewalt dwp611 reviews Let me help you to find out for which factors, you really need to buy DEWALT DWP611. Features precise depth adjustments and fast, easy motor pack removal for … I don’t know if a SuperPID will work with a router that already has closed loop speed control. As a corded power tool, the DeWalt DWP611 is more powerful than the DCW600B. But, this is detailed in the installation instructions for the SuperPID, which also replaces the Dewalt’s internal controller in exchange for an RPM feedback control system. There is also electronic feedback to maintain the overall performance of the motor. Combine power and performance with comfort and convenience by choosing this DEWALT Compact Router with Plunge Base and Bag. If I decide to spend money on an upgrade it will be for a real spindle with a VFD. So far I’ve been able to do everything I’ve tried pretty quickly with this setup. This tool also features SHOCKS Active Vibration Control® technology from DEWALT which reduces vibration felt by the user. ChadShelby December 10, 2016, 3:36am #2. These instructions are for the D26204K bought in Australia. I would certainly go for a spindle when possible. I couldn't find a video on replacing the speed control module, but if ordered, it should be fairly easy to install. Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications. Bob, can you share a wiring diagram for your Pid setup running your Dewalt. Forum discussion: Re: DW660 Mods . Durable 1.25 horsepower motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications. I found one here but looking for a better alternative; http://www.alliedelec.com/honeywell-50070974-002-01/70357937/. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to put heat shrink tubing over them also. That makes the wires look much better and they are easier to handle. Offers lasting durability. Variable speed control feature provides up to 27,000-RPC, and allows you to optimize bit speed to suit the application The Dewalt611 can be modified with a few cut and soldered wires to no longer be soft start; the internal controller can be bypassed. The Dewalt DW611 router that is an option offered by C3D has built in closed loop speed control so its a nice router for the price. Thanks, I was able to take a better look at it last night. I believe the LEDs must be wired with the proper polarity or they will burn out so make sure you measure that polarity before disconnecting them from the router. You don’t have to cut the OEM power cord but I replaced it with my own wiring so I could fit it all into the cable tracks. What is Included (1) DeWALT DWP611 1.25 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router . STEP 7 (optional): If you have an enclosure you can twist each set of wires using a drill after it exits the enclosure. Guys! My feedrate with a 1/32 2 flute fishtail bit in white styrene sheet is .015 doc and 20 ipm. STEP2: remove the 4 star head screws from the top and one from under the top (for the SO3 XXL) 28’ of 12 gage stranded wire for power wire extension, 56’ of small gage stranded wire for the LED light and Potentiometer extensions. So I was looking into the super PID and was wondering if anyone has connected one with The actual CARBIDE 3D board from the SO3 to control the speed, on and OFF from the GRBL software ? DeWalt DWP611 1.25 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router With LED's. But yea i just hooked it to a 9v to check it and it does work. The DWP611PK router allows you to vary the speed from 16,000 to 27,000RPM. STEP 6: Run all six wires (2 power, 2 pot, 2 light) through the strain relief. If we discuss the speed, this router has a set of variable speed. STEP 5: I removed the router switch but really its fine to leave it in place. I’d definitely be interested in slowing it down a bit. According to data gathered, the DeWalt DCW600B‘s housing material is made of plastic. The third leg of the pot was unused so you don’t need to do anything with it. Dewalt DWP611 Pdf User Manuals. Variable speed control enables bit speed to be optimized for applications; ... Can you use .50 shank router bits on a DW 611 pk combo set router Asked by Rollo December 18, 2019. That’s much easier… A router speed controller will adjust speed remotely but because of the way it controls speed you lose torque as you lower the speed so as the load increases the router rpm drops off significantly. But, it has a wire running around the bottom between the two that was difficult to see. You can set the RPM to a known value. Here’s a plot showing rpm vs. pot resistance setting…. I’m going to run mains power to an E-stop which will feed router and SO3 power. 9 Likes. I could bump it up to 40, 50, or more, but I’m concerned about accuracy. It also includes LED lights in the bottom that turn on when the router is on. There’s no need for an optical feedback since the router provides closed loop feedback itself. This is not unlike what SuperPID has one do - except that it adds an optical pick up and provides additional RPM control. The SuperPID is obviously the ideal solution, but the price tag is intimidating. Features precise depth adjustments and fast, easy motor pack removal for bit and base changes. Thanks again! A red and a black, one from each led. No more 1-6 setting. This product allows you to choose and set your speed or range, however it is suited while you are working with your wood. I need to do precise detail engraving into acrylic. The Dewalt611 can be modified with a few cut and soldered wires to no longer be soft start; the internal controller can be bypassed. It has a voltage rating of 120 V and an amp rating of 7.0 amps. Durable DEWALT 1.25 HP fixed base corded router is ideal for carpentry projects like making grooves for joints and decorative mouldings. Power and Performance. Depending on your wire size you may have to grind out the channel for the wires to accommodate the larger wire bundle. View online or download Dewalt DWP611 User Manual, Instruction Manual The Amazon router controller also does not work with soft start or variable speed routers. It was dismissed because it isn’t compatible with Soft-Start routers, like the 611, but it should be usable with a modification similar to the SuperPID installation. I was looking at the led assembly that was removed from a router that had a split shaft that i had to tear apart to try to save my precise bits Collet and nut. STEP 8: Connect your power wires to a power switch. This isn’t good when you are trying to maintain cut quality. Free and easy are always a popular when there’s no downside. Which i was unable to do. It should be easy to set the correct speed depending on the material you are cutting. It looked at a glance to be 2 led’s epoxied into place with one wire each. A spindle upgrade is easily more than $150, the mount has to be changed out, and things need to be realigned. The LEDs are DC driven, not AC like the router. Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut. No, it will not. Thank you! DeWalt 611 Variable Speed Chart. I have a Dewalt + SuperPID. The OEM cord is too fat to fit into the tracks. Pull the top off carefully to reveal the following…. In this post I’ll show you how you can hack the router to provide the following benefits: I’m working on my control panel now but here’s what I plan to have in the end…, Here’s what the final install looks like…, This is a very rough schematic to show how its wired now…. Features Durable 1.25HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut Dual LED's and clear sub-base ensure maximum I couldn't find a replacement motor with controller either. SuperPID provides a close loop for all routers. I like the subject option as well since it’s mostly free. 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