Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications. That’s much easier… A router speed controller will adjust speed remotely but because of the way it controls speed you lose torque as you lower the speed so as the load increases the router rpm drops off significantly. I’m going to run mains power to an E-stop which will feed router and SO3 power. I know. The third leg of the pot was unused so you don’t need to do anything with it. STEP3: Remove the OEM speed control potentiometer. RickPeterson November 10, 2015, 7:13pm #11. If I decide to spend money on an upgrade it will be for a real spindle with a VFD. Soldering iron, solder, flux, wire strippers, etc… and some level of soldering skills. The DEWALT DWP611 ROUTER has a variable speed control along with a starting motor facility that is capable of maintaining motor speed through the cut with full-time electronic feedback. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, SO3: DeWalt DW611 info. The DWP611 1-1/4 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. According to data gathered, the DeWalt DCW600B‘s housing material is made of plastic. dewalt611.png 815×516 220 KB. Feel free to post comments and your own builds and variations. The advantage of Super ID is being able to drop to 5000 rpms vs.16000 which allows more cutter options. It should be easy to set the correct speed depending on the material you are cutting. 360icon December 1, 2016, 5:13pm #1. I believe that this is the 240V equivalent of … That makes the wires look much better and they are easier to handle. No more reaching to turn the router on. You might want to watch a YouTube video about how to desolder components. I could probably have jacked up the feed rate but I had time and didn't want to risk quality for speed. View online or download Dewalt DWP611 User Manual, Instruction Manual It allows you to go down to 5,000 rpm without losing torque as well as use g-code to control the router. The engrave time was actually 90 minutes. You can set the RPM to a known value. A red and a black, one from each led. Its not good practice to run 120VAC in the same track as low voltage wiring because a short could cause what you think is a low voltage line to become high voltage. No Load Speed range 16,000-27,000rpm. It allows you to control your router between 16.000-27,000 rpm. Jong! Product Specifications When I engrave with a v-bit, it is .005 doc and 60 ipm. If the power requirements are 6 volts DC, then you would connect the positive side of your supply to the RED wire and the ground/negative side to the BLACK wire. Offers lasting durability. I could bump it up to 40, 50, or more, but I’m concerned about accuracy. No more 1-6 setting. How did you wire that up? The Amazon router controller also does not work with soft start or variable speed routers. These instructions are for the D26204K bought in Australia. X-Carve. *Make sure the router is unplugged before you start! Do you always keep your Dewalt 611 speed at 1? A spindle upgrade is easily more than $150, the mount has to be changed out, and things need to be realigned. This isn’t good when you are trying to maintain cut quality. Guys! As a corded power tool, the DeWalt DWP611 is more powerful than the DCW600B. You don’t want a lot of instantaneous torque tweaking your carriage. I had my 611 sitting at a 1 and used a feedrate of 30 or 35 IPM, if I remember correctly. I’ve considered that, but I also wonder what the lowest speed out of one of these cheap, dumb controllers might be. I have a Dewalt + SuperPID. There’s a metal tab that holds the wires in place. The lowest speed of 16,000RPM might be too high for some people. STEP 8: Connect your power wires to a power switch. The LEDs may burn out quickly at 9v. In this case, common convention is that the RED wire is Power (VCC) and the BLACK wire is ground. To do so, you remove the closed loop control. There is also electronic feedback to maintain the overall performance of the motor. This is not unlike what SuperPID has one do - except that it adds an optical pick up and provides additional RPM control. If I decide to spend money on an upgrade it will be for a real spindle with a VFD. DeWalt DWP611 1.25 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router With LED's. Proceed at your own risk. A red and a black, one from each led. Since the DW660 is single-speed, some users have used a router speed control unit, such as the MLCS 9400 Standard Duty Router Speed Control to slow it down. The DWP611PK router allows you to vary the speed from 16,000 to 27,000RPM. Feel free to ask if you have any other questions. Where did you find it? Features precise depth adjustments and fast, easy motor pack removal for bit and base changes. I’m not sure but it may blow out the LED’s if you connect them with reverse polarity. Durable 1.25 HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications. The Dewalt611 can be modified with a few cut and soldered wires to no longer be soft start; the internal controller can be bypassed. This mod is essentially free other than the cost of a 5k linear pot ( a few $ and the wire needed). There should not be one wire per LED, but a single power and ground for all LEDs. Clean cable management. Remote power control. Depending on the router, it is possible to go as low as 5K RPM. I need to do precise detail engraving into acrylic. This means that it can maintain the best motor speed through the whole time you are making the cuts. Depending on your wire size you may have to grind out the channel for the wires to accommodate the larger wire bundle. Looks like a lot of fun. Pull the top off carefully to reveal the following…. The router has an integrated hall sensor that reads a magnet on the end of the motor shaft. Features precise depth adjustments and fast, easy motor pack removal for bit and base changes. Thanks, I was able to take a better look at it last night. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to put heat shrink tubing over them also. Features precise depth adjustments and fast, easy motor pack removal for … What is Included (1) DeWALT DWP611 1.25 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router . It pretty much stays close to the speed you set it to even when under load. I thought it would be better to post it as a rough overview than to not post anything. I’m wondering how significant a loss it would be for the router to lose it’s internal soft-start controller in exchange for the use of one of these speed controllers. The speed control on the Dewalt is very good at maintaining RPM under load so unless you need lower RPMs you don’t need a seperate controller. and Looking for the speed control pot specs, SO3: XXL Mega-Enclosure and Dust Collection, SO3 XXL Enclosure Upgrades - computer shelf, control panel labels, gas springs, SO3: How to mod the Dewalt DW611 for remote speed, light and power control, http://www.amazon.com/OHM-Linear-Taper-Rotary-Potentiometer/dp/B00X73YUE4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00. I can’t say how well the Dewalt or any other router holds it RPM well under load. The red is positive. No, it will not. The Dewalt DW611 router that is an option offered by C3D has built in closed loop speed control so its a nice router for the price. Speed control . The SuperPID is obviously the ideal solution, but the price tag is intimidating. Which i was unable to do. But yea i just hooked it to a 9v to check it and it does work. Rick, it doesn’t work with them because a “soft start” router has an internal speed/torque controller. You don’t have to cut the OEM power cord but I replaced it with my own wiring so I could fit it all into the cable tracks. Because I know you nerds like watching things being made, as I do, here's a time lapse of an engrave on acrylic that I just did with a diamond drag bit. SuperPID provides a close loop for all routers. The DWP611PK 1-1/4 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router Combo Kit with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. It’s been awhile since I read this write up, could it also be used to slow the Dewalt down below the 16,000 minimum? EDIT: Heeey, that Amazon speed controller even goes as far as to claim “full power and torque at all speeds.” Decent reviews, too. I can’t remember now if 6VDC is what I measured going to the LEDs from the router or if I just hooked them up to a power supply and turned up the voltage until they got as bright as I needed. he led’s from the router are only two wires. Power and Performance. I have the SO3, the dewalt 611 and want to automize the way I control my router. It is pricey and a bit of a pain to install, but it works very well. I posted a picture labeled "very rough schematic " early in the thread that shows it. The equipment is of one and a quarter peak horsepower router that draws … I’m doing styrene sheet on 1 and so far so good. Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut. Turned all the way to Low, it might actually shut off the router, enabling you to slowly manually ramp the speed up to avoid that violent start scenario. I’ve jogged my machine with the router running and didn’t see any EMI issues. There’s a ton of “right hand rule” going on when you spin one up…. The LEDs are DC driven, not AC like the router. It can also cause EMI issues. The advantage of this mod is that it’s essentially free vs $150+ for SuperPID. I also think that the soft start is easier on the X & Z axis assemblies. I had to do that. But, it has a wire running around the bottom between the two that was difficult to see. The speed control commands speeds from 16k rpm to 27k rpm. Thanks again! Lol, it is technically going to be yours before long when you burn the brushes out of it. The DWP611PK 1-1/4 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router Combo Kit with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. Oh wow, maybe I have just been babying my system at 30 ipm. Combine power and performance with comfort and convenience by choosing this DEWALT Compact Router with Plunge Base and Bag. (for the SO3 XXL) 28’ of 12 gage stranded wire for power wire extension, 56’ of small gage stranded wire for the LED light and Potentiometer extensions. This will certainly void your router warranty and if you make a mistake it could ruin your router control card. It was dismissed because it isn’t compatible with Soft-Start routers, like the 611, but it should be usable with a modification similar to the SuperPID installation. This controller is not compatible with the 611 without taking it apart and modifying some wiring. I need to machine plastic, and the 16,000rpm minimum on the 611 is way, way too fast for what I’m doing. I couldn't find a video on replacing the speed control module, but if ordered, it should be fairly easy to install. ChadShelby December 10, 2016, 3:36am #2. I’d definitely be interested in slowing it down a bit. What is your feed rate? dewalt dwp611 reviews Let me help you to find out for which factors, you really need to buy DEWALT DWP611. I hope someone gets to enjoy this mod with me. There’s no need for an optical feedback since the router provides closed loop feedback itself. For some, that is a lot of bear and SuperPID is a very viable option to gain flexibility… especially the lower RPM range. The DEWALT DWP611 compact router features a 1-1/4 peak HP motor.Compared to its competitor’s models, this motor delivers significantly more power to help you accomplish your wood tasks as productively as possible.You will be able to better manage the tool by … If you choose to cut the power cord cut it close tot he control board so you can run the new wires through the strain relief. Free and easy are always a popular when there’s no downside. The Dewalt611 can be modified with a few cut and soldered wires to no longer be soft start; the internal controller can be bypassed. Durable 1.25 horsepower motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications. You may ask why I didn’t just use a router speed controller. Cut the connector off of the red and black LED wires and solder small gage stranded wire onto them. FYI. Being able to control the speed of a router will make it versatile. If you see any issues feel free to post corrections. If you think of steps that are missing just let me know and I’ll fill them in as best I can. I don’t know if a SuperPID will work with a router that already has closed loop speed control. The DeWalt DWP611 is a 110v/220v handheld router that your simply remove from its base and insert it into the X-Carve as a spindle. Variable speed control feature provides 16,000 - 27,000-RPM which allows you to optimize bit speed to suit the application. I have a Super PID on my dewalt and it works flawlessly. Variable speed control enables bit speed to be optimized for applications; ... Can you use .50 shank router bits on a DW 611 pk combo set router Asked by Rollo December 18, 2019. Variable speed control feature provides up to 27,000-RPC, and allows you to optimize bit speed to suit the application Basically the LED is completely electrically disconnected from the router. This router speed controller on Amazon claims “0 to Full Adjustment,” and if the harbor freight does the same it’d be an option, albeit sloppy. This product allows you to choose and set your speed or range, however it is suited while you are working with your wood. This is a great feature. DeWALT D26204K/DWP611 SuperPID conversion This brief is about converting the DeWALT router to be controlled by the SuperPID closed loop speed controller. Features Durable 1.25HP motor delivers the power to meet the toughest applications Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications Soft-starting motor features full-time electronic feedback that maintains motor speed through the cut Dual LED's and clear sub-base ensure maximum Variable speed control feature enables bit speed to be optimized for changing applications. I haven’t seen anyone attempt to use an ordinary 120V motor speed with their Dewalt 611. I’m not great and it worked for me. The DWP611PK 1-1/4 HP max torque variable speed compact router Combo kit with LED's has a 1-1/4 HP motor to deliver power for the toughest applications, and variable speed control for optimal bit speed in each application. I guess before I start tearing my router to pieces I aught to do a bit more experimentation with feedrates. There is a PID feedback controller (mods, feel free to insert link here if you want) called Super PID. The Dewalt DW611 router that is an option offered by C3D has built in closed loop speed control so its a nice router for the price. I’ve also seen the Rockler router speed controller mentioned in this forum before. Connect your pot wires to a 5,000 ohm linear resistor. But yea i just hooked it to a 9v to check it and it does work. Brand: Dewalt. I bought it mostly for the low speed options (5,000-30,000RPM range). I couldn't find a replacement motor with controller either. STEP 5: I removed the router switch but really its fine to leave it in place. The DWP611 has you covered in this regard given its variable speed output of between 16,000-27,000 RPM, and this is selectable via six different settings using the … It has a voltage rating of 120 V and an amp rating of 7.0 amps. Probably true. Last Refresh: Tue Dec 22 2020 15:27:32 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Durable DEWALT 1.25 HP fixed base corded router is ideal for carpentry projects like making grooves for joints and decorative mouldings. The DWP611 has built-in soft start and speed control. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Router Speed Controller for Dewalt DWP 611, modifying the Dewalt for external speed control. The corded version’s is made of aluminum. I would certainly go for a spindle when possible. They might go from 1 to 6 and even have a maximum range between 16,000 RPM to 27000 RPM. Just like any other model, having variable speed control in a router tool helps a lot. If had to do it all over again I probably wouldn’t change a thing, happy customer. It pretty much stays close to the speed you set it to even when under load. Make sure you check with them before buying one. To install you bypass much of the router electronics and install an optical sensor(as Mike mentioned above). Rick, it doesn’t work with them because a “soft start” router has an internal speed/torque controller. STEP2: remove the 4 star head screws from the top and one from under the top Dewalt DWP611 Pdf User Manuals. So, how would you feel about connecting your 611 to one of these “cheap” speed controllers in a similar fashion? I like the subject option as well since it’s mostly free. Voltage and No-Load Speed. STEP 7 (optional): If you have an enclosure you can twist each set of wires using a drill after it exits the enclosure. This forum is the best!! I know. 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