08/19/2016 by 4. I put a sauce pan of FAUCET RUN hot water inside the fridge directly under the filter / water inlet tubes and bam. When I installed the new filter (as per instruction), I heard a release of air. I tried the water and no more jackhammer sound and the water flows nicely. Turn it on again to see if emits water. If it works, consider replacing the water line. I replaced the o-rings, turned off the water source and while the water dispenser was running, I slowly turned it up until the "hammering" started. Good luck. For me, the solution to the hammering was to unscrew the filter and screw it back in again, TIGHTER. If there is no chip under the label, it is not a genuine RPWFE filter and will not work in the refrigerator. Returned the original GE one, and got another GE one thinking it was a defect in the filter. I followed the directions for filling the filter first with out success. I wish there was a video to show what it looks like when it is full. If one of the dispenser switches is defective, the dispenser will not work. Plastic hose on back of fridge sprang a leak… called for service as we were stumped, they offered that the water reservoir might be icing. I found that after replacing the filter and running some water the pump would stop and panel would no longer respond. If your refrigerator has a water dispenser please try it. For me, replacing the new filter with the old still produced the same results. The real solution is to replace the water filter mount because more than likely, the water inlet nipple is broken. I don't have a technical explanation for the issue, but it could not have been a coincidental, simultaneous failure of the refrigerator, or my home's water system. I had the same problem with a Samsung and the technical support dept said I must have used a cheap Wal-Mart replacement filter but they were wrong it was a Samsung. If an item from the freezer, such as a corner of a frozen vegetable bag, stops the freezer door from closing all the way, the water will not come out of the dispenser. You will notice little air bubbles at the fill hole . My girlfriend was told the control unit in her dishwasher needed to be replaced ($100s). He checked the connection on the bottom of the door and decided I needed a new door because the problem is inside the the door. The refrigerator is under a service contract so I'm ok with it but it still doesn't make sense to me because all he did was check the filter and check the water flow. If 1 cup of water is dispensed in 8 seconds or less, the water pressure to the refrigerator meets the minimum requirement." At least for us..Remove the filter and shake it a few times. Michelle Peterson. I know the original post was for ge, but a search for this problem for Samsung led me here. The washer did it and it was an easy fix for me. It just pools in at the top. Upon removing the filter, it was clear that the little "wedge" had actually made an indent into the rubber washer. Hi! I think something has changed in the manufacture of the filters in recent years such that the filter is actually putting up too much resistance to water flow. If only one dispenser part is not working, test each of the dispenser components before testing the control board. I have the rf263. I placed the washer in my filter after going through all the steps above and once I did that Voila! Insert a new cartridge and push it in until it snaps into place. I submersed the filter in a pitcher of water and waited a few minutes for the bubbles to stop. I got this idea after watching this YouTube video. Just had and solved this problem. The solution is that you need to replace the entire filter head assembly. It worked for a day or two, and then the water stopped flowing, accompanied by a very loud, annoying, disturbing jackhammer sound. Trey Blacklock. everydrop® filters are the only filter approved by Whirlpool brand. This way your filter will not damage the nipple in the filter head assembly. Hold the dispenser line for four minutes. Finally I remembered that when I removed the old filter by turning it to the left I felt a moderate amount of resistance and then it turned easily enough and came out. But since the system was working perfectly before I changed a filter, I would bet the valve shorted out. The video provides more information and shows about the part in the filter head that needs some extra push. Add a little more water. I tried 3 different new filters from 2 different brands several times. Lol. That is what worked for me after uninstalling it and re stalling it about 12 times. Oh my gosh I am so glad I came to this page. no water. Do not waste your time or money on repairs. © 2021 iFixit — Licensed under Creative Commons — Privacy — I resolved it by reducing the water pressure to the fridge. Once fully installed turn filter back a little may be 1/2inch and try it. i bought my filter from walmart and it didn't go on as easy. So I think a metal washer (possibly combined with a rubber washer) may be the real way to go. I took the part out, after checking everything else, and saw that it has little wings that were supposed to keep it straight, allowing for it to be pushed to let the water flow into the filter. Thank you, thank you, thank you! Problem solved. It just needed a washer. One final comment: We bought rubber garden hose washers because it seemed like rubber was "better" than metal. Then at one point he said the water is now flowing. Solution: before changing the filter shot off the water AND eliminate the water pressure by turning on a cold water faucet. I’m going to call GE tomorrow to ask them WHY they wouldn’t tell people about that piece of styrofoam. Put the water filter bypass cap that came with the fridge back in (or buy a new one on Amazon). It is very common for refrigerator dispensers to get clogged up with things like … A Whirlpool water dispenser requires at least 30 pounds per square inch of pressure to operate. It must be a problem with come kind of interaction between the fridge and the filter. It is more likely that a single part has failed. Verify that the freezer door closes completely before assuming the problem is the water filter. After reading the comments here and looking at the write up in the package, I figured it was probably the water pressure going. Anyhow, I found the culprit!!!! The resolution for my Jenn-air: there is a black gasket that formed an outer seal. To determine if your water filter is the culprit -- or some other issue is the cause -- troubleshoot your water filter and dispenser to get the device operational again. SEND ME AN EMAIL at sjlevin@comline.com, if you want the answer. Disconnect both water lines that go to the filter and the back, top cover where they go in from the back. OR perhaps never buying GE or any off name same manufacturer fridges would be! To keep water from your refrigerator from tasting like you are drinking from the periodic table, change your filter at least twice a year, if not more, depending on usage. This was a French door Maytag with water/ice in the door, love the thing otherwise. put old filter back on and watch how far it goes to turn water back on (take back off). To check on the water inlet valve, unplug the refrigerator and shut off the water supply to it. How to Replace Dispenser Water Tube Kit for Whirlpool ED5KVEXVQ00 Not dispensing water #AP3179954. Best of all, it just costs as much as a water hose washer ! 07/18/2020 by The only explanation for this is the new filters have not been manufactured to the original specifications, and do not depress the switch far enough to activate water flow. After a year of not being able to filter my water I realized that I had removed a restriction on the supply side which would have increased my flow/pressure. The fact that the old filter worked every time I put it back in made me believe the filter was the problem, not the fridge! that would make a fellow never want to change water filter again! It's worth a shot. At the suggestion of someone here, I put the filter in a bucket and filled it entirely with water, forcing out all the air within. But since it is all but impossible for a fridge owner to track how many gallons’ worth of water and ice that have been dispensed, most manufacturers recommend simply replacing your filters every 6 … I pushed up above where the water filter goes and noticed a PIECE OF STYROFOAM!!! I have purchased 3 new GE - GSWF original eqp. However, after a week of the filter working, the noise and lack of water pressure returned. It could be some filters are slightly misaligned. I had no water pressure after changing filter..saw a fix on this site. That’s all I did, replaced the filter, put the cover back on, and now I have WATER! I also put some silicone grease on the filter seals. Hello. So what worked for me was to untwist filter slightly once fully seated then re tighten and repeat to process a few times until you feel a slight increase in tension. Simply replacing the filter shouldn't break anything, but it does. If the entire dispenser system is not working, the control board is more likely to be at fault. It was mentioned in another solution so, I decided to check it out with a mirror and found out that it was crooked. take off the plastic guard in front of filter. THANKS!! The plug works. I had this issue and I fixed it by filling the filter with water then connecting it. Old filter was working but slow flow, new filters wouldn't work. When the freezer door is opened the freezer door switch does two things, it turns on the light in the freezer and turns off the ice and water dispenser. After a few minutes, the water completely stopped. This video shows me troubling shooting the problem. I found the problem to be that I screwed the replacement filter in too tight. Why I would have to use manual defrost mode is beyond me. I used a washer..then it worked..wish I had tried this earlier..now have an extra filter..but will just save it for next time:), Install the filter like the box says, then find a cup or container heavy enough to engage the dispenser and leave the cup there for about 5 minutes, or you could just push it in with your hand for 5 minutes if you have nothing else to do. I over-shot a few times adn had to keep adjusting until I found the most pressure without the ill side effects. When it’s time to replace the water filter in a Whirlpool ® refrigerator. Not a 100% fix but all 3 filters were different inside where it mounts and triggers the switch to let water pass. I tried everything else and adding the washer did it! I have a rf31 and having the same issue. I put the old filter on and it worked fine. Filter then dispensed perfactly. If the filter needs replacing, turn off the ice maker. The plug will often look similar to your refrigerator's water filter. Then I backed off on the spigot a bit until the 'hammering" stopped. The water will now flow freely, but won't be filtered. The instructions in the filter replacement kit asked to fill the new filter with water before replacing, but I had not paid attention to it :(. If the water dispenser is not working the water pressure from the house might be too low. You're welcome. I don't know if this did anything, but I thought I would mention it. Found out there was a stupid piece of styrofoam up above where the filter goes. If the refrigerator water dispenser is not working the water filter might be clogged. I have a ge model DFE28JSHBSS and after replacing my water filter the sign for the water turned the despenser off what should I do? We had the same problem of just a trickle of water after replacing the cartridge. We had real slow water and hollow ice cubes, replaced dual inlet valve, no change. I'm very grateful for the latter, because now troubleshooting is less messy. If you find that your fridge dispenser is not functioning properly, then take this as a sign that your filter needs replacing. John Bochenek. I had the same issue and tried all of the above. Most people are replacing the whole filter mount which would be the actual fix because there's nothing about it that's repairable. Photo 3: Replace the pegs Drill out the pegs and replace them with two No. Put the old filter back in and all worked well. I am not sure if that fixed the problem or something else, for now I am afraid to take the filter out to prove the theory..but will try that when I have to replace the filter again. Pull the fridge away from the wall and install an in -line water filter. Bob Wasson Remove the filter and reinstall to ensure proper installation. If the refrigerator water dispenser is not working the water supply tube in the door may be frozen. If the entire dispenser system is not working, the control board is more likely to be at fault. myronnieboy1. Companies should tell people about packing material that should be removed from the frig! Then also tried a generic filter from home depot. You are now at a menu, where the press of any of the buttons will cycle through the options. Thank you!!! Using a cup, press and hold the dispenser for 5 seconds, and then release for 5 seconds. I'll wait until the filters give out before trying to contend with this problem again. 06/02/2015 by Rick I had them fix a convection oven-and the guy tried to fool me that the convection heating coil was working when it wasn't. The hammering goes away.. after repair of water line and sears water filter that is full water will not dispense even after following sears instruction video, cannot purge system even after doing all told by sears vidio with door water. and determine where it froze in the door. I checked the web and found advice on adjusting the water pressure and filling the new filter with water. I NOW HAVE WATER COMING FULL FORCE FROM THE DISPENSER!!! Like some others here, I had to loosen mine a bit and water started flowing again. No its not air in the lines ,No its not freezing lines,No its not low water pressure in my house. It consists of the filter head (i.e. See instructions below. If only one dispenser part is not working, test each of the dispenser components before testing the control board. On refrigerator models that have a water filter, you will find more than one solenoid valve for the dispenser, and will need to determine which solenoids are used for the dispenser. Peter Vrisk I now have water! Locate your water filter and either clean it or replace it. Don Rogoza Rick—Check under the cover for your water filter. Whirlpool refrigerators with water dispensers have filters that need periodic replacement. The water dispenser does not work unless the freezer door is fully closed. After a couple months with the old filter I tried again with the new filter and now water will not come out with either the old or new filter. albert einstein So I think a metal washer (possibly combined with a rubber washer) may be the real way to go. If your water dispenser works but the flow is weak, then there is a good chance that your ice maker is not getting enough water. This will ease filter insertion and retard swelling of the O-ring from the water. Through a Venturi action across the broken weld, air gets sucked into the upstream side of the filter element. Hence, my suggestion to use a metal or “very hard” rubber one. A light comes on the water dispenser to indicate that it is time to change the filter about every six months or so, depending on the model you have. The easiest fix of all! I put the old one back and it still didn’t work. If you put your old filter back in and it still has no pressure ,its no the filter "makes sense". I was able to get mine going by turning the water off from the wall valve and loosing the water line to release the pressure between the water inlet valve and the filter mount assembly. Based on the comments and solutions suggested here, I thought the filter was defective so tried it out with four new filters - all same results. I have a spigot attached to my water supply. Your thoughts? 01/06/2016 by NateK My husband figured it out. So realized it can't be the filter. 10/22/2013 by Pressed the switch on the valve and water went all over. That did not work. I think I am going to skip 3rd party filters from now on. Watch the video. I've tried the remedies listed above. Install your filter and turn water supply back on , this should do the trick. Last restort I compared to new & old filter side by side and noticed that the small tab below the dispensing nozzles on the new filter was a bit longer. If power is present, you can check the solenoid for continuity with the multi-meter and if … HOPE THIS HELPS!!! Repeated the process five times. If the water dispenser is not working the water pressure from the house might be too low. If you need the bypass plug and one was not supplied with the refrigerator or has been misplaced, one can be ordered at no charge by calling 1-800-GECARES. Examined old and new filter saw that the ARROW that tells you where to insert the filter caused the filter to actually be installed incorrectly so it could not open the water line ,therefore getting the hammering noise. Took me actually 10 darn years to figure this out. I pulled it off and reinstalled it. In my case, with a Samsung refrigerator (French door), this was a defrost issue. Before you connect the water supply to the water line on the fridge, make certain the unit is unplugged from the wall. So a thin metal + rubber washer would probably be the best or just a single reasonable width metal washer. Any ways what i did was push the one that you think is not fully extended in and out maybe 20- 25 times with a long screw driver or a coat hanger. It's as simple as making sure the water filter is installed correctly. So, I've decided to live with the crappy water pressure and brief jackhammer sound. Purge air from the water line. Mubashir Cheema. It works! Clogged filters occur because of debris in the water line. Not as accurate as professional methods but would give you a clue. If you have never installed this new style filter or your old filter was made by Culligan you may need the adapter to install it. @rogoman. Speaking of jams, if you happen to be in one because you’ve got a refrigerator water dispenser not working properly, you don’t have to be caught high and dry. Test your water dispenser for leaks and you'll be set! Tried a great value MWF filter didn't work but for maybe 2 seconds of full pressure. If the pressure is good and the water filter is good, replace the water inlet valve. Leaning more towards bad filter specs as I can get sprayed heavily activating the switch by hand with no filter installed! It seems that new filters, even official brand ones, either do not fully press this "wedge". Good luck! This video helped me solve my problem. A clogged water filter will cause no water at all or very slow water dripping from the dispenser. By unscrewing the filter counter clockwise ever so slightly, the water flow resumed back to normal. Hold "energy saver" (top left) and "fridge" (middle right) until the screen blanks. Upon removing the filter, it was clear that the little "wedge" had actually made an indent into the rubber washer. Insert filter by gently rotating clockwise until it stops. Brenner graduated from San Diego's Coleman College. Keep doing it till they have almost stopped. Nipped a bit off the end of the tab to make it shorter and it worked ! I bought the HDX filter for my Samsung fridge from Home Depot. The refrigerator is particular about alignment. When I try to fill the filter from the sink, It's tough to get water in or out. Step by step instructions on how to replace a Dispenser Water Tube Kit for Whirlpool ED5KVEXVQ00 Not dispensing water #AP3179954 for Refrigerator made by Whirlpool, KitchenAid, Roper, Kenmore, Maytag, Estate. If your refrigerator water dispenser is not working, pull the snap retainers away from the switch and slide it off the pegs. I changed my filter and little to no water pressure. In summary I used the "washer" solution approach. Water dispenser not working after changing the filter - Answered by a verified Appliance Technician We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. Use a sturdy container to depress and hold the water dispenser lever for 5 seconds and then release for 5 seconds Repeat the process until water starts to flow at a steady pass and all the air is out of the water line. It's the air in the lines that causes the hammering noise. That way it reset the filter to flow the water!!!!! if it's not getting all the way pushed in you will get a trickle of water or nothing. I was having a similar episode with my samsung fridge filter. Step by step instructions on how to replace a Dispenser Water Tube Kit for Whirlpool GD5RVAXVB03 Not dispensing water #AP3179954 for Refrigerator made by Whirlpool, KitchenAid, Roper, Kenmore, Maytag, Estate. This vedeo goes indebth on the problem I had trying to install a generic refrigerator water filter. It’s such a simple fix; but, seeing how many other people are having the same problem, I thought I would let you all know! I actually called a repairman, and he removed the filter and just reinserted it properly. It turned out that the water pressure was too high for the filter. Boom done. Try putting your old filter back on to see if it works. I you depress both of them they bounce back cause of spring pressure, The correct term "Check valves" possible one way . I had the same "hammering" problem. If your water dispenser does not work, your ice dispenser likely has malfunctioned as well, because both devices use the same water source. IT TAKES AT LEAST 20 MINUTES TO FILL. Whirlpool refrigerators with water dispensers have filters that need periodic replacement. It must not have been seated properly after removing the old filter. Between the overpriced OEM filters, the "repair" job, and a replacement bypass plug, I am about $220 in the hole. It makes me suspect they may be deliberately trying to sell either service or new appliances when the customer thinks his refrigerator is ageing and will continue to have issues. © Copyright 2020 Hearst Communications, Inc. @alnowilton. It fixed mine as well. Good luck. Most filters contain and are made up of carbon and a fabric filter. For those worried about water pressure to an ice maker/water dispenser in the door, in my Kenmore Model 106.55112 Side by Side Refrigerator Manual it says; "With the water filter removed, dispense 1 cup of water. Tried multiple times to get it to work. I had the same exact issue after I replaced the water filter. As pointed out in the video link above, the filter assembly has a tiny "wedge" that must be fully pressed in for the filter system to work. Until I decided to give a try for the last time. I tried everything from thawing the lines to replacing the water coupler. The water flowed! Trey Blacklock. After re-inserting the cartridge in sideways in my hand with the thread ears sideways i imediatley heard the water start filling the cartride and thats when i finished pushing in and turning clockwise untill locked in. I didn't extend the warranty because the papers that came with it read that it didn't do much at all. Hammering and a tiny stream that turned into no stream of water tonight. This issue is all over the Web, and I do think the most common cause is a bad product. Proper alignment is the key. I do not have a Ohm sensor to check it, so for $20 on Amazon, I just ordered a new one. Rusty pipes, sediment in water lines and rural well systems can easily clog the small filter on your Whirlpool fridge, especially if you do not have a whole-house water filtration system installed. It is more likely that a single part has failed. With someone dispensing water (or trying to) I very slowly decreased the pressure by closing the valve until it stopped "hammering" and began to dispense water. It would have been nice of GE to mention this in their manual. I know that the drain was clogged, because I had water in the crisper tray during the defrost. Hope this helps some people who have this annoying problem. Sandra Dunhill. Just a stupid small piece of styrofoam was the culprit. Refrigerator Water Filter. An improperly installed water filter prevents correct operation of the water dispenser. but with a firm grip keep spinning and you will hear the water back on. I pressed the on/off switch on the inside of the door and it still won't come on. There was no need to replace the filter system in the refrigerator. You can either replace the filter head or do a cheap fix by using a water hose washer. Same problem. Stop on "fd" (full defrost) it will beep very annoyingly, but usually an hour will take care of it. Obviously, try not to open the fridge during the process to help your food. This filter is either built into your refrigerator or it is “inline” of the water line behind your refrigerator. Why do I need to flush my filter? 04/21/2016 by Water dispenser will have to be replaced. Check it out. Andrew Joseph, shrinivas I FIGURED OUT THE ANSWER TO NEW FILTERS NOT WORKING. I had the same issue after replacing the (GE) water filter--I had no water and no ice. 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